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Let's talk about the advertising on this website
The ads on this website are part of a package deal. We get a free website, as a result - there are ads. Coinopspace sees no revenue from the ads. However, they can be removed for a super cheap value of $300 a year. Not bad for a huge community, fairly outlandish for our size.
I have heard some rumblings that some collectors are upset about the fact that there are ads on this website. So much in fact that some collectors may not sign up as a result.
I have a hard time relating to this perspective because I obviously don't feel the same way. But I am not discounting it by any means.
Looking back at the history of past arcade websites last night, Spies.com in particular, I saw that a large part of why that site collapsed was that the costs were enormous. Websites cost money to host, that is not a fact that is lost on anyone.
I would be foolish to assume that the offensiveness of the ads is generational related, but I personally am used to ads on websites. And knowing how to make a website run and how to properly market any online venture I know the benefits of ads.
For any of you who have had Google ads on your website, or any ad network for that matter, know that they bring you squat. That's why they are an ad network. You get pennies on the dollar. So, anyone who has Google ads on their website unless they are getting 400,000 unique visitors or more monthly, aren't making more than a hundred or two a year.
But I personally won't fork that money out. I am interested in providing information, a value to collectors, and I believe this site does that,as well as Rotheblog.com. I think of all of the ads, Google are the absolute least intrusive. No rollover craziness, no full page, no blinking, and no imagry that could be distracting. Just text. That's it.
The other thing I am not interested in is badgering people to pay for a site to use, when it works perfectly fine free, and I want it to stay that way. I don't want to coordinate every month, bi annually, or annually where funds would come from to pay for the ad hosting. I can use my time better to write stories and make this CoinOpSpace that much better for you to use.
So, I am presenting here, to those of you who are bothered by the ads, how I feel and what the option is.
I want everyone to join, I welcome every collector to this website. Am I willing to pay $300 a year out of my own pocket to do that? Absolutely not.
So, that will be a limitation. I am sorry to those who pop by that don't sign up, and I hope some of you can understand this thought.
If some third party here would like to take the effort to get X amount of people to make donations upfront to secure in advance three years of usage where no ads are displayed, then I would be willing to go through the work of getting that taken care of.
I won't assume some of you don't feel that strongly to pony up a combined $900 to do that. But my guess is that won't happen.
So, these are the options. I have no control over the fact of what ads are there or if they are there, I don't get any money from the ads and I thought all of you should be aware of how this site works.
I have heard some rumblings that some collectors are upset about the fact that there are ads on this website. So much in fact that some collectors may not sign up as a result.
I have a hard time relating to this perspective because I obviously don't feel the same way. But I am not discounting it by any means.
Looking back at the history of past arcade websites last night, Spies.com in particular, I saw that a large part of why that site collapsed was that the costs were enormous. Websites cost money to host, that is not a fact that is lost on anyone.
I would be foolish to assume that the offensiveness of the ads is generational related, but I personally am used to ads on websites. And knowing how to make a website run and how to properly market any online venture I know the benefits of ads.
For any of you who have had Google ads on your website, or any ad network for that matter, know that they bring you squat. That's why they are an ad network. You get pennies on the dollar. So, anyone who has Google ads on their website unless they are getting 400,000 unique visitors or more monthly, aren't making more than a hundred or two a year.
But I personally won't fork that money out. I am interested in providing information, a value to collectors, and I believe this site does that,as well as Rotheblog.com. I think of all of the ads, Google are the absolute least intrusive. No rollover craziness, no full page, no blinking, and no imagry that could be distracting. Just text. That's it.
The other thing I am not interested in is badgering people to pay for a site to use, when it works perfectly fine free, and I want it to stay that way. I don't want to coordinate every month, bi annually, or annually where funds would come from to pay for the ad hosting. I can use my time better to write stories and make this CoinOpSpace that much better for you to use.
So, I am presenting here, to those of you who are bothered by the ads, how I feel and what the option is.
I want everyone to join, I welcome every collector to this website. Am I willing to pay $300 a year out of my own pocket to do that? Absolutely not.
So, that will be a limitation. I am sorry to those who pop by that don't sign up, and I hope some of you can understand this thought.
If some third party here would like to take the effort to get X amount of people to make donations upfront to secure in advance three years of usage where no ads are displayed, then I would be willing to go through the work of getting that taken care of.
I won't assume some of you don't feel that strongly to pony up a combined $900 to do that. But my guess is that won't happen.
So, these are the options. I have no control over the fact of what ads are there or if they are there, I don't get any money from the ads and I thought all of you should be aware of how this site works.
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Jamie Whitney on -
I can't see how someone could make use of a free resource and complain about a few unobtrusive ads. Most media sources that you pay for have ads - TV, magazines, movies, etc.
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Permalink Reply by Bill Jr. on -
I'm only offended because they aren't flash advertisements that tell me to whack the mole for a low, low interest rate on a mortgage. But, whatever works for you is fine. :)
In all seriousness I don't really see what the problem is with the google ads. They aren't very distracting.
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Permalink Reply by NoCashValue on -
The google ads are so commonplace on other sites that I use, they just become background noise in my eyes and I don't even notice them after a while. Those people who won't use the site because of the ads are either making excuses or can take their snooty opinion and shove it!
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Permalink Reply by Jeff Rothe on -
I think in an ideal world, sure, we'd all like an advertising website. But at the same time, we want great resources. To me, I don't think you can have it both ways. You can't have an amazing community built from scratch, something that is custom coded that is much more than a common forum, that doesn't cost somebody something.
I think that the community is generous and always want to donate, but the problem like I mentioned is the reoccuring costs....and this is one heck of an amazing solution and is positioned for the future, aligning with Google's Open Social platform for developers which should help this network see a ton of growth.
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Permalink Reply by Angry_Radish on -
To be honest, I haven't seen any ads and I didn't know there WERE any.
I'm using firefox with the noscript addon, good stuff!
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Permalink Reply by Spyridon on -
Angry_Radish said:To be honest, I haven't seen any ads and I didn't know there WERE any.
I'm using firefox with the noscript addon, good stuff!
That's what I was thinking. Where are the adds? I don't see any. (so if I'm just missing them, then I don't have a problem with them)
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Permalink Reply by Droler on -
I didn't notice that there were any ads either. I see them onthe right in the little frame but they are certainly not obtrusive.
It took you pointing it out for me to even notice them.
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Permalink Reply by TheShanMan on -
To anyone who gripes about the ads: Start using Firefox and install the adblock extension. In fact if you hate ads then you must grumble about half the sites you visit, so your happiness will increase tremendously by following my advice!
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Permalink Reply by Chris A (driph) on -
I'd let the folks that are complaining know that the advertising isn't going into your pockets, either. That may be part of the reason they are balking, the thought that someone is profiting off the whole thing (not that it should matter, if it serves their needs as collectors).
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Permalink Reply by Jeff Rothe on
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Well. Some very cool news.
We had an anonymous donor step up and pay for removal of the ads. He believes so much in the viability of this network, that the plan right now is that the ads will be removed for one year.
Like a lot of your comments here, you didn't even notice them. But for those of you who this did bother, hopefully this will help your adjustment here, and I hope you will especially take advantage of this and now invite some more of your collector friends to join who also might have not because of advertising.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Moore on -
I'm late to the party on this one, but big thanks to the donor for keeping our new home ad free.
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Permalink Reply by Shane Ritter on -
Well, As a wesbite host i have limited my website advertisements to ads related only to that what line of commercialism reflects my own website. For example, I run a free auction service for Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles. There for, the ads reflect those brands only or are related to those types of sites in the field of the automotive world. And i dont use any popups at all which are anoying as hell. So my ads got nothing to do with Viagra poping up at you when you enter.(No pun intended). We also alow free advertisements with each member and they are allowed to run up to 3 ads per person. BUT, they have to be related to the fan based brands that my auction is based on. I dont take any donations and my site is completely free with NO obligations.
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